Hey, Guys, i'm sure that You'll be sick of U.S. beef, If you're see that video.

and hey, thmark, What is a crisis of democrecy?

Noam Chomsky who is dubed "the conscience of U.S." said that there is no democracy in U.S., The upper society in U.S. wants the masses being quit. Just voting and put their on a back bunner.

I have to say that "Do you really understand what is democracy?." and "You're really not a dumb person which is that only you can do is just throw the paper in a voting?"

I think you do. Maybe you can't understand fundamental of democracy.

and amid the comment in this board, I assume that a few American knows that Thier own beef is not safety.

except american, there is many intellectual who claim that U.S. beef is not verification for safe.

American abandoned thier own safety for money. They're never interested, and never will.

They just assert U.S. beef is safety. then why didn't test all cattle of mad cow disease. They knows that their cattle have a many SRM and BSE.

Here is another example of double action in U.S. beef, If it is safety, Why, America import beef from Australia

29%? just one Australia, they're import beef many country.

And you know what? S. Korea beef market is top of three for U.S.

If American wants to earn some money from Korea with beef, should acting sincerity and show respects.

Korean sick of american attitude just like that there is a no problem. It's just S.korea problme and Korean's wrong.

How deaf?

It's problem scientifically. Just don't sell your health for money. Don't hand over problem to beef companies. They're forfeit your right with advert. and cover your eyes to blind.

I'm totally sad that americans doesn't know that they're in a critical moment.

Mad cow disease not appear on right now, take a decade or more. Maybe you're in trouble right now for money.

6/11/2008 1:14:15 PM

thmak:This is an example of democracy going astray. Democracy is not that good anymore.

thisworld wrote:

One would expect the South Koreans a bit more considerate toward those less fortunate enough to die of hunger in many parts of the world, including the next door neighbor of South Korea, namely North Korea. But then again, we are dealing with the people who just can't resist demonstration and protests of any kind. South Koreans do these for relaxation.

sumana54 wrote:

Korea needs a deep moment to pause and introspect into their huge factory farming of dogs and puppies that they so relish for Christmas diner and their family get togethers. Dog is not a food putting aside the beef issue. How can any so called civilized country eat dog with such abandon and then worry about some phantom mad cow disease. How about the concept that people eating dog flesh have a limited leval of compassion and quite clearly are unaware that Jesus and holy beings would not think to devour man and womans best friend. I see this culture as backward and not aware of the great inhumanity they partake in. I have watched this beef incident and thought about all the dogs they breed for sub human consumption. Korea has deep issues and they need to not feign angst as killing of beloved creatures means nothing

mehrdad_zahedi wrote:

Dear Koreans please buy and eat american beef with low-prices and thank americans; I think you would be very happy if you bought beef with unbelievable high prices as like as sanctioned people of Iran):

robert17 wrote:

kj4bovina wrote:

The mad cow rebellion aside,

imagine what would've happened in Korea if its leaders invaded another country with false pretext of exporting democracy, etc.,

imagine further this contrived war killed thousands of their own young and uncounted hundreds of thousands of the innocent "enemy" country, and

imagine still further that the political cronies of the president and the vice- are profiteering in the billions of dollars from unbid military contracts -- read Halliburtons, Blackwaters, Bechtels!

What we should do, let's ask the South Koreans to invade US and give us their brand of democracy so that the war criminals and common criminals in the White House and around can be brought to justice.

Then, only then, we might make America truly a NATION OF LAW, NOT OF MAN.

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I'd like to imagine a nation where someone would not dismiss the topic at hand in the first few words and then go off on a lengthy tangential rant on another subject. Especially when it's the same subject on every story from Lithuanian business growth to the discovery of a new species of flower in Brazil. And even when the rant was properly located in a story having to do with the subject, I'd prefer one that was at least a bit insightful and imaginative, not like the crap quoted above.

robert17 wrote:

jeffwashingdc wrote:

usalg,

oh stop your whining. China doesn't whine about it every time you ban their toys for lead. So how about you do the same with Korea and deal with it before you churn out any more sick beef.

Or nevermind. Go ahead and boycott their electronics. Seems like you boycott China for their crap exports, so why not boycott Korea for not admitting your crap imports? What a knee-jerk tool.

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As many errors as premises, way to go!

The Chinese do whine every time.

Our beef is not sick, please deliver some evidence if you wish to persist in stating that it is.

And of course the second paragraph is just a bunch of insults, which accurately reflect the quality of your post as a whole.

robert17 wrote:

msmithnv wrote:

Just like the oppressed under classes in Arab nations the underclass in Korea feels squeezed by high prices and lack of opportunity. Countries with wide income disparities among it's citizens often look to distract their people by blaming someone other than themselves for what they themselves have created.

Thus Hugo Chavez blames the West for his crumbling socialist economy.

The real problem is over regulation, price controls,and protectionist trade policies that have crushed their economies with wild inflation and economic swings.

We had the same swing here when Jimmy Carter was President and tried to put a freeze on gasoline prices.

We now know the Great Depression lasted much longer than it needed to because of the overreaction of the pols in DC. It was also accelerated by the isolationist, anti free trade Smoot Hawley Tariff act signed into law June 17, 1930.

Now we see Democrat politicians calling for similar trade barriers with the same result around the corner. That is shortages, high inflation, high interest rates and a prolonged economic downturn just when it appears we are working our way out of this downturn.

Shrinking the world's trade is exactly the wrong policy. We need the exact opposite that is we need a surge of vigorous trade.

Brazil has an abundant cheap source of ethanol for us,sugar ethanol, but the Democrat farm Senators are trying to protect their ill advised corn as fuel experiment in Iowa and the farm states and so they have put a 50 cent per gallon tariff on Brazilian cheap ethanol.

We got rid of Tom Delay now it is time to dump the other group of ultrapartisans like Nevada's Harry Reid and bring in a whole new group of creative thinking nonpartisan members of Congress.

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Great post, I agree with every word.

robert17 wrote:

commonsense7 wrote:

Sheesh - Korea does NOT want to ban US beef, just US beef that is from cattle that is 30 months old or older.

Pretty much all the other countries that import US beef have that same requirement (Japan's is even STRICTER at 20 months).

Even in the US, beef from cattle 30 months or older is BANNED for human consumption, unless individually inspected.

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Actually Koreans do look like they want to ban U.S. beef entirely like they have been for years for no good reason. The 30 month thing is their president's compromise to the agreement already negotiated with the U.S. The U.S. appears willing to compromise on this point, but the demonstrations are aiming at a return to the total ban. I wonder how concerned Koreans are about imports from China?

robert17 wrote:

mycomment wrote:

there ya go, beef industry. see, not all national representatives are as greedy and dismissive of public health concerns as the u.s. congress -- that you've bought and paid for.

the korean people are to be commended for their public rebuke to their political leaders and the u.s. beef industry who just assumes they can impose their contaminated products on anyone.

it's extremely gratifying to see the public pushback.

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You seem like just the sort of paranoid that would make a good Korean. How many people do you know that have been infected with "Mad Cow"? Not one case in the U.S., and we eat tons of this "contaminated" beef. This is a case of mass hysteria whipped up by the Korean left and fueled by the media. We have exactly the same types of people in this country, though thankfully they do not constitute an hysterical critical mass most of the time.

It's a shame that South Korea has forsaken its honor in order to kowtow to the North. Now there is this shameful spectacle invented as a cover for more of the same appeasement. It's a disgrace, and I have lost most of my respect for that country in the last several years.

grannymiller wrote:

Who can blame 'em?

The USDA is pimping for Big Agra Biz & everybody knows it.

Just ask Creekstone Farms.

help4mac wrote:

From appearances, it looks like they already have mad cow disease.

Let's dump Samsung stuff in the Potomac.

kackermann wrote:

bobmoses wrote:

LOL. Look at all the Bush haters and America haters come out to attack the usual targets of their mindless hatred.

We get it. You guys hate Bush and whole bunch of you hate America. Good for you.

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Oh bob, we don't hate America, and we don't hate you. We need you to stay here and work so we can give your money to illigal immigrants and communists.

Also, we are changing our mind about Bush: it looks like he actually made possible the election of the first Black president. Now we can cheer for Bush together, you and I.

Don't be so bitter; it upsets your parents.

I met them the other night in a gay bar and they seem like a couple of nice guys.

kackermann wrote:

Good. Maybe we'll get some inspectors now for our own food.

lohengrin wrote:

After just a few months of electing the most popular president, they are trashing their streets and the government is on the verge of falling over, get this, imported US beef that has never turned anybody into mad cow. Even the Italians aren't that crazy.

politicalmajority wrote:

The AP video on this news article is biased and already 2 days old. The violent protesters are suspected with significant evidence to be government moles trying to instigate violence to give the police a reason to use violence in suppressing the protest. Because all protesters knew that violence will trigger the violent police action, they were very wise to keep the protests very peaceful and prevent the apparent moles from instigating violence.

The last night's protest was peaceful with everyone laughing at the government's shipping container barricade greased and welded together in front of the protesters. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7445387.stm and http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/06/10/world/0610-KOREA_index.html

With the shipping container barricade, people made fun of Lee Myung Bak for (1) his unwillingness to talk to people, (2) putting himself behind the high wall of shipping containers, and (3) reminding people that he was a very authoritarian, top-down chairperson of Hyundai Construction during the 70s and 80s.

Lee Myung Bak is heavily opposed for his other troubling policies such as digging a large canal between Seoul and Busan by connecting rivers through several mountain ranges and unrealistically formulated English-immersion program, to name a few. His education policies so troubling that the first wave of people who protested against the importation of U.S. beefs from cows 30+ months old in last month were tens of thousands of teenage girls, who do not have the right to vote and was unable to vote in the last presidential election. And Lee Myung Bak is politically too dense that his responses to the protests have been very slow and untimely. And being a lifelong Christian, Lee Myung Bak relies too much on the advices of South Korea's corrupt, greedy, and political right-wing mega-church pastors.

Lee Myung Bak is a troubling president not only for South Koreans but also for American civilians and service members in and around the Seoul area. He wants to move the Sungnam Air Force Base, which is the Korean equivalent of the Andrews Air Force Base, further South in order to allow Lotte, a large Korean conglomerate, to build a 100+ story luxury hotel nearby the Sungnam Base's current location so the hotel does not have to worry about air traffics.

Lee Myung Bak has been heavily criticized by Korean citizens and ex-Air Force members for this because this will result in a huge national security breach. Moreover, the Sungnam Base is also used by U.S. Air Force. If any crisis occurs and American civilians and service members in Seoul have to evacuate by air, they have to use the Sungnam Base. Moving this air base further South will jeopardize the security of tens of thousands of Americans in and around Seoul if something happens.

At the same time, South Koreans are heavily campaigning against the big three conservative newspapers, Chosun, Joongang, and Donga. (The Washington Post's sister publication Newsweek is published in Korea by Joongang.) These three newspapers have not reported truthfully about the whole situation. South Koreans are boycotting these three newspapers with success and some large corporations decided not to publish ads on these newspapers.

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